Irish Water: Thousands cancel direct debits amid uncertainty

Ralph Riegel and Paul Melia

Thousands of Irish Water customers have moved to limit their exposure to financial loss in the light of ongoing discussions about the future of water charges.

The Irish Independent has learnt there has been a flood of cancelled direct debits in the last number of weeks as Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil were embroiled in government formation talks.

Irish Water is refusing to release the exact figures, saying they are not available at this time, but sources have suggested that up to 80pc of all calls involve customer queries over repayments, direct debit cancellations and refunds to their bank accounts.

One source said people were desperate to recoup some of their payments made to date.

"I'd estimate that eight in 10 calls now involve people questioning direct debit cancellations, refunds or how exactly the SEPA banking refund system works," the source said.

"Last year there was significant anger over the bills. But at the moment people just seem to want information about how they can get some of their money back."

Irish Water last night declined to comment on the scale of direct debit cancellations it has faced since the 2016 General Election and the confusion over water charges.

One utility official said it does not comment on "hearsay".

However, the number of payment cancellations is understood to now be running to thousands each week. It is also believed the numbers cancelling have increased amid repeated warnings from major political parties that there is no question of immediate refunds for the 928,000 households who have paid their charges to date.

More than 1.5 million water bills are currently being issued, with some 750,000 expected to be posted or sent electronically over the coming weeks. The bills are being sent because Irish Water is legally obliged to continue to charge for water and wastewater services, and customers are expected to pay under current legislation. New legislation will be enacted after a minority government is formed, which is likely to be next week, after which charges will be formally suspended for at least nine months.

It has also emerged that Irish Water workers and contractors are also seeking emergency meetings with Fine Gael, Fianna Fáil and the Independents over the implications of the deal on the suspension of charges on their jobs.

Aside from its directly employed staff, Irish Water's operation provides employment for more than 1,000 contractors both in terms of meter installation and bill processing.

More than 750 specially trained contractors operate with Cork outsourcing firm, Abtran, on handling Irish Water bills and payments. Contractors are also involved in the installation of water meters and various maintenance functions.

Separately, the chair of the Public Water Forum has said that neither Fianna Fáil nor Fine Gael made contact with the group over the agreement struck between both parties in relation to the water charging issue.

Dr Tom Collins, (photo above)  who chairs the forum which is designed to address consumer concerns, said he saw the value of an entity which would advise on best practice. He said in education, the National Council for Curriculum and Assessment (NCCA) was tasked with helping to shape policy, and that could be helpful in the water debate.

"They (the parties) didn't talk to the forum," he said. "I could see the value of an organisation in relation to developing proposals for drinking water and wastewater, and not just confined to Irish Water."

Original article:   Irish Independent May 5, 2016


The Emerald Isles' pure clear waters are swimming in carcinogenic Trihalomethanes

In relation to this week's revelation in several national newspapers that Trihalomethane is present in water supplies throughout Ireland,  Yeat's poem 'The Song of Wandering Aengus' springs to mind.  Instead of the trout turning into ' a glimmering girl with apple blossom in her hair', the trout turns into a lethal carcinogen.

View of Greencastle and Lough Foyle with Magiligan Head in background

View of Greencastle and Lough Foyle with Magiligan Head in background

This is not meant to be flippant but how else can one view this recent health bombshell?  It is even more sinister since the facts have been known for several years, (at least since 2010),  by our illustrious administration.   Not one local representative, not one official has thought it worthwhile to investigate or inform their community.  

Donegal Affected Areas
You can download full EPA Drinking Water Remedial Action List Q4 of 2015.  In this you will see Donegal areas highlighted for THM failure (Trihalomethanes), areas include Gashard, Fintown, Greencastle, Pettigo, Portnoo, Rathmullen.  Also mentioned for Donegal are areas lacking in Cryptosporidium barriers; Glenties, Kilcar, Cresslough and Letterkenny.

This is awful news, however,  the worst part is that it is not new.  It was highlighted in a local Donegal online newspaper http://www.donegaldaily.com/2014/11/20doctor-says-towns-water-supply-is-not-fit-to-drink, onNov 20,2014.

Not only that but it was published in 2010 in EPA reporthttp://www.epa.ie/pubs/reports/water/drinking/Drinking%20Water_web.pdf,   This indicates that it was known to the EPA, and HSA as far back as 2010.

Also highlighted in the report were problems with other chemicals including lead, and microorganisms i.e cryptosporidium.  

Where has the outcry been from our political representatives, local and national? Where has the outcry been from all our health officials and county administrators?  It is now 2016 and still the communities are unaware of the potential hazards. 

EPA Minimising Risks
There is a couple of other interesting things in the above EPA report that need highlighting.   One does not need to be a scientist to see subtle misrepresentations such as in explaining Trihalomethanes, para 2.4.3, the report says

“THM failures are caused by the absence of adequate treatment to remove organic matter (THM precursors). Trihalomethanes are formed when chlorine reacts with naturally occurring organic matter in raw water”


However, in http://des.nh.gov/organization/commissioner/pip/factsheets/ard/documents/ard-ehp-13.pdf it states

” Trihalomethanes are a group of organic chemicals that ofter occur in drinking water as a result of chlorine treatment for disinfectant purposes and therefore are also known as 'disinfection byproducts' or DBPs”.

Do you see the subtle difference?

The EPA report, para 2.4.3 again is downplaying the significance of the carcinogenic properties of trihalomethanes

“Trihalmomethanes are formed when chlorine reacts with naturally occurring organic matter in raw water. Chloroform and bromodichloromethane (two of the four THMs) are classified by the International Agency for Research on Cancer as a ‘possible carcinogen’. The Committee on the Toxicity of Chemicals in Food, consumer Products and the Environment (COT) (UK) systematically reviewed the evidence with regard to THMs and cancer in 2008 and stated “Problems remain in the interpretation of published studies. These include the small relative risks recorded, the possibility of residual confounding, and the problems with exposure assessment” They concluded “the evidence for a causal association between cancer and exposure to chlorination by-products is limited and any such association is unlikely to be strong”

Do you see what I am trying to get at? Even today the EPA is picking and choosing reports and scientific facts in an effort to what can only be construed as risk minimisation. Why?
 

Authorities Not Obliged to Inform Public
You would be hard pressed to find any information in the report obliging authorities to inform the public about potential dangers to their health.  Apart from mention of ‘boil notices’ there isn’t anything statingthat the public have a right to know, especially in the case of Trihalomethanes.

The 2011 EPA report, para 3, states ” 200 of the original 339 public water supplies placed on the EPA Remedial Action List (RAL) have completed the necessary action programmes and have been either replaced, upgraded or have improved operations. Three WSAs did not provide an estimation of the timeframe for completion of remedial actions for 12 supplies, 10 of which were in Donegal.”

Same paragraph “ All WSAs were found to be publishing some or all of the microbiological, chemical and indicator monitoring data as required by the Ministerial Direction on the publication of drinking water results. However, many WSAs are not publishing this information within one month as required. Six WSAs (Galway, city and county, Kilkenny, Limerick, Meath, North Tipperary) were found to be in full compliance”

This would imply all others not mentioned were not in compliance. When EPA says ‘publicising result’, what do they mean?  Are these results, or it seems ‘ partial results’ so obscure that even our elected representatives are not aware of them? 

Surely the public has a right to know, to be informed what they are consuming, the potential lethal consequences of consuming carcinogenic drinking water?  Should we not have a right to expect that everything is being done to protect our health?   Should it not be mandatory for all personnel and official bodies, scientist and engineers,  employed to monitor and research , to make it known to the public without trying to minimise the hazards?  Surely they know and have known since 2011 and beyond.  Still people in 2016, in Greencastle and elsewhere in Donegal and nationally are drinking contaminated water.

What this 2011 report shows, together with the more recent EPA 2015 report, is that all is not as transparent as they would like us to believe and it seems that the welfare of citizens is not regarded as first priority .

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Enda Craig

Enda Craig

An Inishowen environmentalist has hit out at Irish Water for what he termed a lack of information about excessive chemicals and contaminants in some water supplies.

Highland Radio, Feb17, 2016

Enda Craig of the Campaign for a Clean Community was speaking this week after it emerged that one of the exceedents in the Greencastle supply is a chemical which has been linked with some cancers.

Mr Craig says Irish Water are promising a new supply by 2017, but he believes this could be rectified immediately by switching Greencastle to the East Inishowen supply.

He says this is an issue which needs to be prioritised: