Brendan Ogle at Donegal Right2Water meeting, another view

by James Quigley

This is in response to Corinna Mc Callig’s version of a R2W meeting in Letterkenny on Monday 2nd August that appeared on her facebook the following day. It must be said that she stated that it was her opinion, however, I totally disagree with her interpretation of events, especially about believing it to be ‘a most positive meeting’.

 Brendan Ogle, Unite, far left and Philip McFadden, SF, far right in 2015 in Brussels to support Lynn Boylan's Citizen Initiative.

Brendan Ogle, Unite, far left and Philip McFadden, SF, far right in 2015 in Brussels to support Lynn Boylan's Citizen Initiative.

She referred to me as ‘one of the men of Buncrana Together’ without giving any details about what I said or about the one question I asked.   That question to Mr Ogle concerned ‘Lynn Boylan’s, SF MEP, 2015 European Citizen’s Initiative which contained paragraph 92 that stated:

‘Calls on the Member States to introduce, in accordance with World Health Organisation guidelines, a pricing policy that respects people’s right to a minimum quantity of water for living and cracks down on waste, providing for the application of a progressive charge that is proportional to the amount of water used;’

I asked him did he or Righ2Water object to that paragraph at any time? Mr Ogle did not answer my question.

Mr Ogle brushed off Ms Boylan’s Citizen’s initiative saying that it had no legal standing and he agreed with a comment fromLiam Whyte, deputy Pringle's assistant, that it means nothing and to forget about it.

Thomas Pringles, TD, did respond to Michael Mooney’s question about the 9.4 Exemption and the R2W TDs claiming ‘Victory’ only on a draft report. As far as I am aware deputy Pringle’s response was the same as his radio interview on OceanFM.  However, Ms Mc Callig had a different interpretation.  I would like to know if Mr Pringle agrees with her when she said;

Pringle spoke about it, the R2W TDs on the committee, all 5 of them, tried to have it included and Fianna Fáil agreed so it was on the draft report but at the 11th hour Fine Gael phoned Fianna Fáil and threatened an election so Fianna Fáil turned coat which left only 5 TDs out of 20 voting to put the 9.4 in″

Ms Mc Callig later informed the meeting that she did not know the issues around 9.4 Exemption or the European Citizens Initiative and that she wanted to know where she could find the relevant documents.

One of Mr Ogle's most bizarre explanations came when he talked accusations that he called for an excessive use charge and again again by Steve Fitzpatrick in the Oireachtas Committee. He said that they were referring to a ‘Swimming Pool’ charge.

In the interest of clarity I have to admit that I arrived at 8.15pm. The venue was changed at the last minute from the Mount Errigal Hotel. Perhaps that accounted for the small crowd packed into a very tiny and stuffy room. The main and only speaker was Brendan Ogle and by the time I arrived he had started on his slide presentation. After his presentation Philip McFadden, SF, although not the chairperson directed proceedings. After a complaint about this,  it was confirmed that Charlie McDyer was in fact chairperson, however, Mr McFadden continued to direct things anyway.

Members of the audience were allowed three questions. The meeting finished at approx 10pm, inconclusively, in my opinion, and according to my sensibility, acrimoniously and without resolution; despite people agreeing with a woman called Anna Mae, who said that she had experience with conflict resolution and that what was happening tonight was positive. I can not agree that this meeting was positive nor a right setting for any conflict resolution, nor do I think a resolution can come about without reliable answers. These answers I may add, should have been given months ago,  if not years, especially by so called coordinators of a so called democratic organisation.

In a previous article in Buncrana Together I stated I was not going to attend this meeting. That changed due to the level of facebook abuse myself and Enda Craig received, not only from R2W Donegal members but nationally. It is ironical that quite a few times throughout the meeting Mr Ogle rebuked people for social media abuse. I wonder does he realise that he is responsible for most of it. He has not only joined in at times, abusing his position of power but also has not stopped his followers from using such abuse.  This meeting was no different.

Mr Ogle’s speech was full of threats, innuendo, misinformation, misdirection, falsehoods, condescension and of course a lot of the ‘poor me syndrome’.  It was boring but seemed to be effective with his captive audience.

One clever trick he pulled was while staring in my direction he referred to people spreading lies and said ‘like some in Buncrana something or other’. He didn’t have the decency to say the full tittle but brushed it off as ‘Something’.  I informed him later that the word he could not name was ‘Together’, as in Buncrana Together. However, that little trick set the tone of the evening and everyone was informed that I was one of those who he was referring to.

The format of Mr Ogle’s slide presentation reminded me of the the one he used in the past especially his treatment of Solidarity, formerly AAA, during R2C Conference in 2015.   Remember when he lied on video and had it up on the screen in black and white.  All stood idly by and said nothing. 

The format of his slideshow was

Headings - LIE 1, LIE 2, LIE 3 and each time he listed a fictional lie. This was followed by a bullet list of what positive things he said R2W did.  Each slide ended ‘WHO GAINS’. Who gains when R2W is attacked? Which side are you on?

I don’t know about you but that says to me ‘don’t criticise’, ‘don’t ask questions’, and if you do you are the enemy.


 

 

Brendan Ogle's upcoming talk in Donegal. Is it a coincidence or inquisition?

By James Quigley - on Brendan Ogle's upcoming talk in Donegal.

 Donegal Daily July 26 2017

Donegal Daily July 26 2017

 

This is an exercise more like the same old controlled opposition that we have experienced for years, propaganda from unelected and self appointed leaders trying to kick-start what has been shown to be a power grab for political and personal reasons.

It is too much of a coincidence that Brendan Ogle decides to come, to the wilds of Donegal from Dublin in the midst of a R2W community revolt, a grassroots revolution trying to take back power from trade unions, political parties and personal agendas .

It seems more like a witchhunt and the Witchfinder General will come and breathe fire and brimstone on the dissident people who dared voice their opposition and opinions. He will also try to instill and bolster up the determination of his followers. It is a cynical exercise organised by undemocratic, corrupt R2W Ireland leadership in Donegal egged on by the undemocratic national leadership. After all they have done to control and mismanage a magnificent national campaign, how else can we look at it?

Now the excuse is that they did the best they could, that they had only 5 TDs on the controlled Oireachtas Committee and as such could not control the outcome. After the horse has bolted with not a word in the final draft report from that committee about the River Basin Management Plan and the 9.4 Exemption, after not a single criticism from the 5 TDs, after the shout of victory and Mr Ogle rejoicing about the outcome, now this psychopathic R2W Ireland leadership’ (never admit wrong), is latching on to the 9.4 and the RBMP for all it’s worth and unashamedly putting the onus on us to do what they should have done months if not years ago. March down the same old road again only for them to take the credit again.

I can recall Enda Craig last year writing a lot about the 9.4 Exemption in Buncrana Together. He even ventured on to R2W’s main website and the local ones in Donegal to ask them why they were not doing anything to highlight it. He got short shrift, nothing but abuse. Now they are all over it and trying to say they have been at it for years.

This exercise is the same old propaganda, modus operandi, hoodwink,  designed to keep the assumed leaders in power or protect their jobs for years to come whether union or political, a permanent opposition.  When all else fails blame the failure on the dissidents or that other Republican party Fianna Fáil.  It’s a bit like Northern Ireland, where Sinn Féin has attained a permanent opposition status with a sure call for a United Ireland.  Having agreed to the Good Friday Agreement they can safely say that their jobs are good for maybe 20 years.  Or the European Union that’s another good hunting ground.

Thank god I don’t have to go the talk show and listen to a tirade from someone who hoodwinked and controlled the water campaign, called for water charges, accepted metering, Irish Water Ltd and supported a minority Fianna Fáil Government. All while he said the opposite and getting paid to boot.

I would like to say ‘we haven’t gone away’. We will support the dissidents who seek democracy, truth and justice, community power.  We have witnessed our power so Mr Ogle and all political parties beware.


 

 

 

Put Criminals in chain gangs for hard labour - Inish Times article

 Cllr Paul Canning, Fianna Fáil

Cllr Paul Canning, Fianna Fáil

In bold headings the Inish Times, Buncrana, Co Donegal, printed an article on January 24, 2017, entitled ' Put criminals in chain gangs for hard labour'.  The reporter attributed this rather draconian statement to a County Donegal, Fianna F…áil Councillor,  Mr Paul Canning,  and describes it as a 'Controversial proposal'.

Unfortunately the article does not elaborate on what it termed'controversial'.  It does not say where and when the statement was given, whether in private or as part of some meeting, such as the Donegal Joint Policing Committee (JLC). 

If it was the DJC, it begs the question what are members discussing becauseit was reported recently that a Sinn Féin member of DJC was called for the return of 'The Birch'.  It seems if some had their way we would be policed, beaten and working on chain gangs.  No pussyfooting there it seems.

Whether it was said in private or in a meeting, the fact is that anyone should realise that such archaic visibletreatment of a human would be hard to legislate in supposedly and enlightened society.  Could such an open call for vile degrading treatment be regarded as 'incitement to violence'?   Perhaps! Could those involved, by not speaking out, be aiding and abetting?   Perhaps!   Could the newspaper, by not elaborating on 'controversy' be just a culpable in spreading propaganda?  Perhaps!

Imagine how so called 'Republican' forget Irish history, past and present, that of oppression, internment, torture and chains and ?  Imagine how one can forget 'innocent until proven guilty' or 'miscarriages of justice'?

Perhaps it might be more appropriate to think about the conditions that lead to someone committing crimes in the first place such asinequality, deprivation, lack of esteem and oppression.  Maybe such a call issymptomatic or themodern phenomenon of 'Trumpism',  giving one the right call for repressive measures.   However, far from protecting anybody or preventing further crime, such treatment does not prevent but merely perpetuates.

Is it not ironical for a Fianna Fáil member to abdicate responsibility in light of his own Party's role in the state the country at present,  the austerity and lack of hope that people have been lead into?

Is it not hypocritical and shameful of all involved whether directly or indirectly, to publicly demand 'chain gangs' and 'hard labour' especially when Inishowen is called 'Amazing Grace County'


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